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VicJ
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1 month ago

How to grow a landscaping business stuck at “owner + one crew” stage

TLDR: My spouse and I run a small landscaping business that’s stable but stuck at the owner + one crew stage. We still have to work in the field daily because we haven’t been able to develop reliable crew leaders, and hiring more staff feels unmanageable. Our maintenance model works well in a dense service area but doesn’t scale easily to nearby towns, and clients mainly see us as a maintenance company rather than landscapers. We’d like to move toward higher-value work and build a business that doesn’t rely on our physical labor long-term. For those who’ve grown service businesses: how do you break past this stage and start working on the business instead of just in it?

My spouse and I run a small landscaping business that we somewhat fell into unexpectedly, and we’re looking for advice from people who have grown service businesses past this stage.

The business started informally in a neighbourhood about 20 minutes outside a nearby town. Over time, several gated communities were developed nearby, adding a few hundred homes. Many are vacation properties and many residents are snowbirds, so there’s strong demand for property maintenance.

Right now we operate with one truck / crew (2–4 people including us), and season that runs roughly March–December. We do have another truck and a few other trailers so have had short stints of running two crews.

The business is financially stable. We pay ourselves modestly, have an accountant/bookkeeper, and use QuickBooks and Jobber. However, we feel stuck at this size.

 

Main challenges

  • We’re still on the tools every day. Most hires are entry-level and turnover is high, so we don’t have anyone who can reliably run a crew, quote jobs, train others, or solve problems independently.
  • Crew leads aren’t long-term. Even when someone steps up, they still require constant support.
  • Growth feels unmanageable. Hiring more staff means more work to manage, which already feels like full capacity.
  • Our model relies on a dense service area. Maintenance works well in the clustered neighbourhoods we serve, but expanding into nearby towns becomes inefficient (plus there is a lot of more established competition outside our main service area).
  • We’re stuck between models. Clients mostly see us as a maintenance company, but we’re not big enough to run separate maintenance and landscaping crews.

 

Goals/Ideas We've Thought Of

  • Move toward higher-end design and installation work
  • Reduce dependence on daily physical labor
  • Build a business that is sustainable and potentially sellable

For context, I handle marketing (website, social media, Google reviews) and have a graphic design background. One of us also has an irrigation technician certificate, but we haven’t added irrigation services yet due to limited experience.

Each winter we plan to work on business development, but the time usually goes toward preparing for the next season.

 

Questions

  1. How do service businesses break past the “owner + one crew” stage?
  2. How do you develop reliable long-term crew leaders or managers?
  3. Is it better to scale maintenance crews or pivot toward higher-value landscaping work?
  4. How do you make time to work on the business when operations already take everything?
  5. Where do you start to work on the business?

 

We’re approaching middle age and don’t want to rely on physical labor forever. I’d love to build something more sustainable than just owning a job. Neither of us have "dream" careers, but owning a landscaping business wouldn't have been on the list of contenders. We want to know how to make this work and how to figure out what to do in the future whether that is with the current business or doing something completely unrelated. 

If anyone has gone through this stage in a landscaping or service business, or just as a middle-aged person who still doesn't know what they want to be when they grow up, I’d really appreciate hearing what helped you gain clarity / move forward!

3 Replies

  • Definitely following this thread as I am in the same boat, just in the Handyman industry.

  • To me, and this is just a suggestion, but I would sacrifice some margins and pay the lead and crew more. I would say a good lead should make $200-$300/ per day in a good (50+ client situation), and a crew member needs to make $150-$200. These are ballparks but that type of money will keep people around for a long time and motivate them to excel and provide work that's set apart. That would put a lead around 25-30 per her, and a crew member around 17-20. Obviously the lead would need to be someone with experience and who can find more leads and clients to scale. Also, I'm not sure on your setups but consider more hardscapes and flower bed designs, tree planting, with a half or full sized dump trailer mainly for dirt, etc.

    There are many variables such as, are you frequently using yard signs, door hangers etc. Have you focused on driving leads to a website for interested clients to fill out work inquiry forms, do you have a good website, etc. Do you have at least 15 5-star reviews on social media platforms, or a high rating? Are you using top-of-the-line commercial grade equipment? Do you drop the lowest paying clients, clients who maybe have issues with paying on time, clients who constantly ask for unwarranted discounts, prioritizing clients who get added to weekly and bi-weekly schedules, etc. Changing work orders on the fly, even periodic price increases, charging more money for things such as overgrowth, etc.

    • CHY's avatar
      CHY
      Contributor 2

      Thanks for the advice—I really appreciate you taking the time!

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      TL;DR of my core questions:
      Benefits: Any recommendations for Health Care Spending Account or group benefit providers that work for seasonal crews?
      Marketing: How do others handle marketing—contractor, agency, or in-house hire?
      Growth: Should we transition maintenance staff into project work, or build a separate crew for hardscaping/design?
      Scaling: How do you start a new division while still managing day-to-day operations?
      Structure: Where do you begin with delegation/accountability charts, and what is the first key hire to enable growth?

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      We’re already paying crew leads at or above your suggested rates. We’re also exploring Health Care Spending Accounts, as traditional group benefits don’t seem feasible yet—especially with a seasonal workforce. If anyone has recommendations for providers, I’d love to hear them.

      It’s reassuring to know we’re on track with your other suggestions as well.

      On the marketing side, it’s becoming too much for me to manage alongside everything else. I have a background in interactive/graphic design, so I’ve handled it in-house, but I don’t enjoy it—especially the SEO side—and time is limited. We’re currently using a Jobber site (previously I built a WordPress site). I’d be interested to hear how others handle marketing—contractors, agencies, in-house hires, etc.

      We do have a few inconsistent payers, but they’re smaller maintenance jobs, so it’s manageable. A bigger challenge is that we’ve built a dense base of recurring lawn care clients. We’re not the cheapest, but not the highest-priced either, even after consistent rate increases.

      I feel like we’ve maxed out on maintenance and want to shift toward larger projects (hardscaping, design, softscaping). The question is whether to train our current crew for that or build a separate team. If it’s a new crew, I’m unsure how to start while still managing daily operations—quoting, scheduling, materials, etc.

      That’s really the bottleneck: we’re stuck managing maintenance, which limits our ability to grow beyond it. I’ve looked into accountability charts (via the Jobber podcast), but I’m not sure where to begin—what to delegate, to whom, and what the first hire should be to create space for growth. Any advise with where to start?