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- DJBloodContributor 2How I Bid Linear Sewer Work with Confidence and ConsistencyIn construction, efficiency is everything. Whether you’re estimating a small run or an entire subdivision, the most important factor is how quickly and accurately you can translate scope into a reliable number. I approach all my bidding with a structured formula that turns project dimensions into predictable costs—and it’s worked for me time and again.When I bid sewer work, I do it by the linear foot. That ensures I’m consistent across projects and simplifies budgeting both for me and the client. Here’s an example using 8” SDR 35 sewer pipe with pea gravel bedding, based on a 100-foot section. I bid based on what my crew can actually install per hour, and I build in material, labor, equipment, and markup for true margin.MATERIALS – PIPE• 100 ft @ 20-ft sticks = 5 sticks total• Raw Cost: 5 sticks × $300 = $1,500• Markup (30%): $450• Total Pipe Material: $1,950EQUIPMENT & LABOR (Per Hour to Install 100 ft)Description RateExcavator $325/hrPipe Layer $70/hrLabor Hand $50/hrLoader $260/hrTrench Box Rental $100/day = $10/hr → +30% = $13/hrTotal Labor/Equip: $718/hourThis assumes one hour to install 100 feet, which is achievable with an experienced crew.BEDDING MATERIAL – PEA GRAVEL• Volume Needed: 100 ft x 1 ft wide x 0.5 ft deep = 50 cu ft = 1.85 cu yd• Cost/yd (Local): $50• Total Gravel Cost: 1.85 × $50 = $92.59COMBINED TOTAL BEFORE FINAL MARKUP• Pipe (with markup): $1,950• Labor & Equipment: $718• Pea Gravel: $92.59• Subtotal: $2,760.59FINAL MARKUP – 10% ACROSS THE BOARD• $2,760.59 × 1.10 = $3,036.65FINAL COST PER LINEAR FOOT• $3,036.65 ÷ 100 ft = $30.37 per footWHY THIS WORKSThis method gives me full control of my bidding process and keeps everything transparent. It accounts for:• Equipment time• Labor by the hour• Exact material needs• Overhead and markup, built inBy marking up each item 30%, I account for material reliability, risk, and the value of my sourcing and supply. Then I apply a 10% global markup to protect my margins and overhead. That structure gets me into the 25–45% margin zone, depending on the project.If you’re a smaller outfit handling both the management and the work, you should be shooting for 55%+ to stay sustainable. Anything less, and you’re paying for your own jobs out of pocket.Some clients may not understand why their quote is higher than the guy who scribbles numbers on a napkin. But when you break it down this way—clearly, with purpose—it gives them peace of mind that their job is planned, professional, and worth the investment.Closing Thought:One model doesn’t fit every job, but every estimator should have a model. This is mine. Once it’s built, I don’t have to guess, tweak, or second-guess. I plug in the job length, soil conditions, and material specs—and the numbers speak for themselves.
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- HeritageRestoContributor 2
I'm a one-man shop, my overhead is low. I confirm everything I can think of and do research to make sure there's nothing else I need to include. I also make sure to pad my labor by an hour or two. I tend to think I can do more than I actually can in the course of a day, so it tends to help with both controlling my rate and completion time in my favor.
- Verenice81Contributor 2
I crease my prices 10-20% per year to our regular customer.
- ChandraServiceContributor 2
When you are in the warranty service and have multiple manufactures changing their prices substantially for parts multiple times a year do you change your prices across the board or only with those company with part increases. I'm finding it hard to find balance between their terms and unity across our company?
- eberts0604Contributor 2
I'm an odd ball in that I mostly work on a time & materials for my handyman services. I know some handymen are moving toward fixed pricing, but I prefer the flexibility of hourly work. I give estimates, but still bill out hourly. So, to answer the question, my profit is built into my hourly amount.
- SamContributor 2
In its most simple form, start with how much money YOU want to takeaway from each service/job you provide. From there reverse engineer how much you need to markup your DIRECT COSTS and OVERHEAD to meet that takeaway number.
- kaylitapikaContributor 2
Without being greedy, make sure you are only accepting assignments that are paying you what you are worth!
- JetManSolutionsContributor 2
It's important to do an After Action Report- How do you know how much you need to charge if you don't know if the previous job was profitable? Reviewing each job, assessing it's worth in Time, Materials, and Labor may change your perspective on how much you should be charging. It may not be one or two jobs, but do the same project 3 times and see if it was really worth your while at that price point.
- HeliconardContributor 2
Best piece of advice!
- gvlandscapeContributor 3
I think staying on top of your expenses overhead/operating/labor costs and crafting a good man hour rate from that coupled with being as detailed and thorough as possible when creating quotes is best for ensuring profitability.
We have always stuck to our guns in terms of pricing when it comes to quotes to clients no surprises costs but it works in our industry, if there is something that is outside the scope of our quote that comes up during a project it is quoted additionally so there are no surprises. Our business thrives on re-occurring jobs with our clients whether it is weekly, monthly or annually.
- Poo-Picker-JoshContributor 2
Over time it's not uncommon to raise prices to match inflation. Good communication to clients will handle that.
For setting price points - Different industries have different profit margins. Setting the price is a tough one. You don't want to be too high or too low and obviously have a profit margin that is sustainable. The lowest hourly charge i've found sustainable in any business has been $60 per person. Other businesses have higher minimums. This is my personal experience.
We personally priced our Dog Poo Pickup service to be the highest price in the market for the pay as you go packages. And the cheapest in the market if someone pre pays for a year of service. This way the subscriptions not cover more than the cost to run the business on a monthly basis and the prepaid funds just collect in the back. This means we will never be in a deficit unless I make dumb financial decisions lol.
You want to get the knowledge of what it costs to run your business and break that down to an hourly cost. including all your expenses not just the cost to do the job. Then you will see the true picture of the cost to run your business and you can decide what you need to charge to be sustainable.
Depending on the service industry you're typically looking at a range of 10%-35% profit margin. Do your market research to see what other services are charging and you will get your ball park price and can strategize from there what you want to do.