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- jdapeacemakaContributor 2
I did a job for an individual and ended up letting him talk me down. Saying he didn’t see the value, I needed it but lost out on it. Learned my lesson the hard way. Always stay firm on your price, be assertive and don’t let the client talk you down win or loose the contract. It’s not worth it to work for less than you deserve.
- MTLcontractorsJobber Ambassador
This ☝️
- Ejbplumb123Contributor 2
I do a percentage of 45% probably could do more but I charge trip fee also. But I do it with all materials from small cheap to big expensive products
- EdhvacContributor 2
Research others pricing, going rates... compare... calculate.
Realize your worth. - travisshepherdContributor 4
Look, that guilt is normal when you're first starting out, but you gotta kill it quick. You're not just selling them a product, you're selling them the whole service. You're the one who has to go get it, store it, haul it to the job, and make sure it's the right stuff. That's time and work.
Most customers would rather pay you a little more than go deal with it themselves. Once you understand you're charging for convenience and responsibility, not just the material, the guilt disappears. It's part of running a real business, not doing favors for people.
You’ll get over it once you realize what you’re actually selling.
- RenoResQContributor 2
You only feel guilty about “markup” if you secretly believe you’re overcharging.
You’re not.
You’re just counting only the visible cost (the box on the shelf) and ignoring the real cost (everything it took to turn that box into a finished, warrantied result).
Home Depot sells parts.
You sell outcomes.My rule: I don’t sell materials. I sell installed, guaranteed solutions at a price that keeps my business alive.Materials are just one of the inputs.
A few points that usually snap this into place:
- Price is about value, not cost.
Customers do not care what it costs you. They care if the total price feels worth getting the problem off their plate. Cost‑plus is a useful floor, not a moral ceiling. - You must charge far more than it costs to fulfill.
Every real business has a big gap between cost and price. That margin funds fuel, trucks, tools, insurance, time in the aisle, returns, mis-orders, callbacks, quoting, and the years you spent getting good at this. If you don’t build that in, you burn out and quit. - Premium pricing lets you serve better.
Higher margin gives you the money to answer the phone, show up on time, stand behind your work, and fix things fast when something goes wrong. That extra reliability is part of what they’re paying for. - Use job pricing, not “line‑item guilt pricing.”
Quote one number for the defined scope. Internally, you can use whatever material markup you need (20%, 40%, 80%) to hit your target gross margin. Externally, you keep it simple:
“This is the price to supply, install, and stand behind it.”
The more you dissect your own price on paper, the more you invite people to argue with parts of it. - Have a clean answer ready for the “but it’s $15 at the store” comment.
Something like: - “Totally get it. The store sells the part. My price is to choose the right part, order it, pick it up, bring it to site, install it correctly, handle any defects or returns, and warranty the finished work. That whole package is what you’re hiring me for.”
That is honest. And it is true.
You do not remove guilt by charging less. You remove guilt by deciding, in advance, what fair looks like for a sustainable business, then sticking to it. Charge what lets you do great work and stay in business for the next 10 years. Anything less is you quietly deciding to go out of business later so today’s customer can save a few bucks.
- Price is about value, not cost.
- HomeownershipContributor 4
The material is only one part of the value. The real value is knowing what to buy, where to get it, and how to use it correctly the first time. Customers aren't just buying a product. They're buying experience, and peace of mind.
- CoopersPropertyContributor 2
you need to stop thinking like an employee and start thinking like a business owner. There’s not much context here but if they wanted it cheap they should have A) done it themselves B) hired someone that is cheaper and along with that comes cheaper quality of work. You did not get into business to be NOBODYS FRIEND. You started a business to either be successful, have goals of more financial stability, tired of the job environment politics.
- Birman_subbaContributor 2
You have to justify your time and effort too, and your mark up is way reasonable.
Like everyone has pointed out your time, gas and effort needs to be justified with a reasonable mark up.
- eccContributor 2
The way we think about it is that we have time, transport costs, and most importantly warranty handling costs associated with the product. If the product fails, the vendor might give you a replacement but they probably arent paying you for your time to handle the reinstallation and admin time. Its kinda like a little insurance policy.
- MTLcontractorsJobber Ambassador
Flip the logic. A client will never say "oh let's pay him more". They'll never say "he's only charging us a 5% markup, I feel bad... Let's give him an extra 10%."
So why do you feel bad? Your markup goes towards the cost of a truck, maintenance on it, the ability to buy another one, the time and expertise to know what to put and where to get it etc.
Low level clients will want a line item breakdown. High level clients will want it done well and efficiently. Don't show your markup. Bundle it.