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AnthonySalazar
Jobber Ambassador
4 days ago

When should you stop saying yes to every customer?

In the beginning of my business, I said yes to almost everyone. If someone was 1+ hour away and wanted service, I would try to make it work.

At that stage, every customer felt important.

I wanted the revenue.
I wanted the reviews.
I wanted the experience.
I wanted proof that people would actually pay for the service.

That helped us get started, but it also created problems later. After a while, the drive time started catching up with us.

Too much windshield time.
Too many miles on the vehicles.
Too much energy spent servicing areas where we were not gaining any real density.

The crazy part is that some of those customers looked profitable on paper.

But once you added the drive time, route disruption, fuel, vehicle wear, and the fact that we couldn’t build enough customers around them, those stops did not make as much sense as I wanted them to.

Eventually I noticed most of our best customers were coming from specific cities in our service area.

That changed how I looked at growth.

Instead of trying to serve everywhere, we started focusing more of our advertising and energy into our top 7 most profitable cities. That helped us build tighter routes, reduce drive time, and make the day more efficient for our technicians.

Another thing I had to learn was that not every customer who is willing to pay is a good fit for the way the business needs to operate.

For us, a good example was service frequency.

We used to allow more flexibility with every other week and monthly service.

The issue was usually customers with 3 or 4+ dogs choosing the lowest frequency possible. Even when those jobs were priced correctly, they could still take 30–45+ minutes per visit.

That created a capacity problem.

Our technicians could spend almost an hour in one yard, or they could service multiple weekly customers in that same amount of time.

So we changed the offer.

We removed monthly service as an option.

We also stopped offering every other week service to customers with 3+ dogs. If someone has 3 or more dogs, they need weekly service.

That change made the routes cleaner, reduced heavy yards, and helped technicians get in and out more consistently. It also forced us to stop building the business around customers who only wanted the bare minimum version of the service.

That was a hard shift mentally. Because early on, saying yes feels like growth.

Later, too many bad-fit yeses create operational drag.

When did you realize it was time to stop saying yes to every customer?

Was it based on service area, pricing, job type, customer behavior, or something else?

16 Replies

  • For me it is clear.  As soon as they don't want to give a cc to be on file to guarantee the booking. 

    • AnthonySalazar's avatar
      AnthonySalazar
      Jobber Ambassador

      That's a big one! I require CC and a deposit on all quotes before we even put them on the schedule. It cuts down on a lot of tire kickers and helps with cash flow.

      • 3WoodsHome's avatar
        3WoodsHome
        Contributor 2

        I'm running into this a lot lately. I typically do "free estimates"...well it's free to them. It costs me a good bit in gas, driving time, meeting time, and time putting together an estimate (for the more complicated jobs). Plus, I'm not getting 75% of those jobs. My handyman business is only two years old and I'm still working on building a customer base. Just wondering, when do I stop doing estimates for free?

  • ExcelFire's avatar
    ExcelFire
    Contributor 2

    Instead of saying no to a valid customer how about hiring some one in that area 

    • AnthonySalazar's avatar
      AnthonySalazar
      Jobber Ambassador

      The issue with that is if that client is in a service area 45+ minutes away, that's still almost an hour I'd have to drive to do "quality checks" to make sure policies are being followed and all the waste is properly cleaned up.

      • Brand's avatar
        Brand
        Contributor 2

        We use company cam and give users access to photograph work with specific S.O.P.'s. At my last job, I managed 26 technicians in construction, navigated a large sales team with estimate issues all by proper photos through the app while at my desk. Millions of revenue and $10-$15M in sales. 

  • This is a hard decision for me. Why give up revenue?! But the saying goes your hardest customer may be costing you money. 

    • AnthonySalazar's avatar
      AnthonySalazar
      Jobber Ambassador

      Not all customers are your customers. If you find out exactly the perfect avatar you can best serve, that gives you a lot more pricing power.

  • TurfT's avatar
    TurfT
    Contributor 4

    This post could have been written about my business. I said yes to everything in my early years — landscaping, branch cutting, random one-off jobs, anything that paid. I wanted the revenue, so "yes" felt like growth. It was actually just drag wearing a growth costume.

    This year I drew hard lines, and it's been the best operational decision I've made. Three services only. Specific service area only. Credit card on file or I don't take the job — no exceptions, including commercial. No one-off services unless it's a big job. No more random landscaping work. I simplified the offer and I say no constantly now.

    The biggest time-leak I cut was the free site visit. I used to drive out to people who needed help with their lawn, walk the property, give them a full plan — and then they'd never enroll. An hour gone, plus drive time, for someone who was never a client. Now they send me photos, I assess from the computer, and they get a plan and a quote without me leaving the office. The ones who are serious enroll; the tire-kickers filter themselves out before costing me a trip. I make one exception: elderly folks near me who aren't comfortable with technology. 

    The counterintuitive part is that since I started saying no this much, I've been busier than ever — just with the right work. People treat your business the way you allow them to. Every no upgrades your client base: better clients, better margins, better use of your day.

    For me the realization came after my first two years: every yes that isn't directly tied to your core business is a yes you shouldn't take. Now when someone asks for something, I run it through two questions — does this help me long term, and is this what I actually want to be doing? Driving an hour for one visit fails both instantly. That's also why I cut the small low-population towns around my urban area, even though there were paying customers there — you can't build density where there's no population to densify.

    The deeper lesson is about scaling. Saying yes to everything and not seeing results is what taught me this, but the principle holds regardless: you cannot scale a business that says yes to everything. Scale requires being extremely focused — and focus is just the discipline of saying no.

    • AnthonySalazar's avatar
      AnthonySalazar
      Jobber Ambassador

      No one lines up to talk to the guru on the bottom of the mountain. The more you learn to say no and pinpoint exactly the service you are an expert in, and the core avatar that will benefit greatly working with you, the more business you end up getting. It's counter-intuitive but it really works. Saying no a lot more gives you all the opportunities to say YES!

  • When we first started out I worked with a lot of residential property managers. I'd say 99% of our business was running to the middle of nowhere to swap a doorknob or on a good day doing 2-3 water heater swaps if it was a really good week we'd handle tenant turnovers. Slowly but surely people started asking us to quote full remodels. I started using terms like "value-add" and it escalated and escalated. Next thing I know we're doing soft commercial renovations too. At that point I was still getting those doorknobs 20 miles outside of town calls so I had to pull the plug on investment property service calls that aren't directly in town. Our business swapped organically from high frequency low value to slightly lower frequency but higher value.

    • AnthonySalazar's avatar
      AnthonySalazar
      Jobber Ambassador

      It's much better to work with 20 clients paying $100 than 100 clients paying $20. Lower frequency service at a higher margin gives you a more efficient business since there's not as many moving pieces to keep track of!