What are the extra things you do to sell a job that you don't charge for?
I had a client recently share with me that between me and another remodeler, I was the one willing to do the most without asking for anything in return before he booked the job, so that's why he went with me. I went and took measurements, got him a rendering of his new kitchen and a layout from the cabinet shop, met with him 2 other times, met them at the cabinet store. Really spent a lot of time developing report before I got the sale. I don't know how sustainable that is however my motto is just be as helpful as possible and the rest will come. What are the "extra's" you guys do to get that sale or create value with your customers?When Should You Fire Your SEO Agency?
We all want our websites to rank better, and to show up on maps. Once you have the budget, it CAN be a good idea to get a marketing agency to handle SEO for you. I made this move 7 months ago and just fired mine and I'll tell you why. First and foremost, I don't claim to be an SEO wizard. The Jobber podcast has had some amazing episodes on this over the last year, people giving hints on how to improve your rankings etc. I followed all their advice and was experiencing a steady level of traffic but I was ready to super charge my efforts. I hired a company that had a great reputation in another coaching group, and they seemed pretty legit. The promise - $1500/ month for 3 service pages, 5 back links, and meetings every month to go over progress. I thought it'd especially be important because we had just rebranded and I wanted to make sure our traffic stayed up. This was the result: From what I can tell, you have to give companies as least a few months to do their magic. Also, google took away the Call button which attributed to less phone calls. But although it made me feel secure to have someone "handling" our SEO, the results spoke for themselves. Much less traffic. From what I can tell, our high review traffic was doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Claude would analyze their work and the impact of the back links didn't seem to be there and we can make our own service pages with actual pictures vs the stock ones they were using. So we made the decision to move on and do the work ourselves with Claude. What have your experiences been with SEO companies? Have you had success with any? What were they doing?How much Quote Follow Up is Too Much?
"Can you turn off my automations, your system is blowing me up?" I've gotten that a lot the last few months since I've set my system up. We basically text and email at day 1,2,3, 6,8,12,16,20,25,29 after the quote is sent unless they give us a "no". I feel like it can go two ways. The people that are going to accept but haven't gotten around to it are annoyed by it. The people that aren't going to accept usually don't say anything. I do get a "no" about day 12 though. The others, no response either way. What kind of nurture sequence are you guys setting up and how successful is it?Financing Options for Service Industry?
Anyone out there offer financing options for their services. We are a house cleaning service and through our training center (we teach cleaning) we thought we would reach out to Affirm and sell our classes with financing option. When I spoke to Affirm they asked why not our cleaning services? Well, yes why not? Anyone has tried this? If you have what are some to dos and do nots have you learned?Is a Salesperson Different from the Person Who Makes The Quotes?
I had an interesting discussion with my mentor lately. Some background: I promoted a team member from carpenter to operations manager. I gave a base salary plus a percentage of gross profit above a certain mark. We didn't hit that mark so he basically just got his base salary for the quarter and was really disappointed, came in and just asked for a really high base instead. I was talking to my mentor about how our sales flow is structured and he mentioned I need to be thinking of the sales person as a lead generator, then the person who would be managing the execution as the person who needs to put the estimates together. That kind of blew my mind a little bit but the more he talked about it, the more it made sense. Keep in mind our projects are all custom essentially so there's different details for everyone, even if it's kind of the same thing. If I go and make the job walk, make the estimate then sell to the team, but then try to incentivize it based on a budget, it's not necessarily fair because the production staff had no part in making that budget. BUT if I'm able to create the "at bats", the foreman walks it with the client then assigns the amount of time and material it will take. Then there's less opportunity to miss details or something get lost in communication. I can give him a plaud unit to make sure to summarize everything. This would also solve the problem of clients treating me like the project manager even though I'm not supposed to be the project manager. I was the one that shook their hand and took their deposit so why wouldn't they send me the grout selections right? Anyway, if you read through all that - I'm curious what your opinion on this is.Are You Selling Your Service… or Selling the Experience?
Customers have more choices than ever. Sometimes the difference isn’t just the service you provide, but how you make people feel from the first interaction to the final follow-up. What are some ways your business creates an experience that keeps customers coming back?Any tips for making YouTube videos that actually bring in customers?
If you're creating videos for your business (or thinking about it), what's one thing you've learned that makes a difference? In this Masters of Home Service episode, Jacob Palmer (Palmer Electrical) talks about how simple YouTube videos became one of his biggest lead generators. He shares practical advice on filming real jobs, building trust before the first phone call, and using video content to win more local customers without relying on paid ads. Never miss an episode of Masters of Home Service. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Are discounts teaching customers to wait instead of buy?
I’ve been thinking about this more as we use more offers during slower seasons. Discounts can work. I’m not against them. We’ve used first-cleanup offers, prepayment offers, reactivation offers, seasonal promos, and different incentives to get people moving. Sometimes a discount gives the customer the little push they needed. It can help fill routes and bring back past customers. It can create cash flow and get someone to finally say yes after sitting on the quote. The problem starts when discounts become the main reason people buy. If customers only take action when there’s a deal, you may be training your market to wait. They learn your normal price is flexible and that your urgency is artificial. That can hurt your business over time. For a recurring service business, this matters even more because the first sale is only the beginning. If someone signs up because of a discount, you need to know whether they actually value the service at the regular price. A discounted customer can still become a great customer. But if the discount attracted someone who was never going to pay full price, you may have created a churn problem instead of a growth win. I’ve had to think about this with our own offers. When we send a first-month discount or a reactivation offer, I don’t want the message to sound like: “We’re cheap right now.” I want it to feel more like: “This is a reason to take action now.” That’s a big difference. The offer should support the value, not replace it. For example, I’d rather tie a discount to a clear situation: First cleanup when starting recurring service Prepaid months Seasonal restart Route opening in a specific area Past customer reactivation Limited schedule availability Add-on bundle That feels different than randomly cutting the price because leads are slow. Random discounts can make the business look desperate. Structured offers can still protect positioning. The other thing I think about is who the offer is for. A discount for a loyal customer who prepays is different than a discount for a brand-new price shopper who hasn’t shown any commitment. A discount to reactivate a past good customer is different than chasing someone who ghosted 5 follow-ups and only responds when the price drops. Those are not the same lead. I also think discounts need boundaries. How long is it available? What service does it apply to? Does it require recurring service? Does it require card on file? Does it require prepayment? Does it apply to add-ons? Does it stack with anything else? Without boundaries, the discount becomes negotiable. And once customers learn your price is negotiable, some of them will keep negotiating. That creates problems for the sales process and the brand. The goal is to use discounts without damaging the perceived value of the service. If your service is reliable, professional, well-communicated, and priced correctly, the discount should not be the strongest part of the offer. The strongest part should still be the outcome the customer wants. For us, that means a clean yard, waste hauled away, gate photo after every visit, clear communication, and one less thing the customer has to worry about. The discount may get attention. The service has to justify the full price after that. Have discounts helped your business grow, or have they trained customers to wait for a better deal?
How do I explain the value of my services without defending my prices?
What's one service that customers consistently underestimate the value of? For me, it's often the planning, preparation, and experience behind the work—not just the labor itself. How do you educate customers on the value you bring without feeling like you're defending your prices? I'd love to hear how others approach these conversations.
