Are reviews more useful than a marketing agency?
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. A good marketing agency can absolutely help a business. They can help with creative, targeting, campaigns, landing pages, reporting, and getting ads in front of the right people. But before you pay someone to write your message, it’s probably worth asking: Have you actually studied what your customers already said about you? Because your reviews may be one of the most useful marketing assets in your business. A lot of owners look at reviews as proof. 5 stars. Good testimonial. Nice thing to put on the website. That’s useful, but it’s only the surface. The better part is the language. Customers will tell you exactly why they hired you, what they were afraid of, what they noticed, what made them trust you, what almost stopped them from buying, and what made them stay. For us, reading through our reviews changed how I thought about our marketing. Customers kept repeating things like: “worth every penny” “one less thing to worry about” “like clockwork” “they text before they come” “they send a picture of the closed gate” “they take the waste with them” “I was embarrassed” “my last company left the gate open” “there aren’t enough hours in the day” That language is better than anything I could have guessed from sitting at my desk. It showed me the real buying triggers. Some people hired us because the yard got away from them over winter or they're busy families who didn’t have time. Others had health issues, pregnancy, injuries, or physical limitations. A small handful switched from cheaper competitors because they were tired of missed visits, poor communication, or gates being left open. Those details matter. If I only market the task, I sound like every other company. “We scoop dog poop.” That’s true, but it doesn’t explain why someone is willing to pay a premium. The reviews showed us what people actually valued: Communication. Reliability. Thoroughness. Gate safety. Waste hauled away. Professional scheduling. No judgment when the yard is bad. A clean yard without having to think about it. That becomes ad copy, website copy, quote follow-up language, sales training, social proof and also helps with pricing objections. When customers repeatedly say “worth every penny,” “more than fair,” or “I’d pay twice as much,” that tells me price is not the full story for the right buyer. It tells me I need to explain the value better, not panic and discount the service every time someone asks about price. A marketing agency can miss that if they don’t understand the business deeply enough. They may write clean copy, but clean copy doesn’t always match the customer’s internal conversation. Your reviews give you that conversation. They tell you what people were already thinking before they bought or what made them feel safe enough to hire you. They show you which parts of the experience matter more than you realized. For us, gate photos became a bigger marketing point because customers kept mentioning them. Hauling waste away became a bigger marketing point because customers kept comparing that to companies that leave it in their trash can. Communication became one of our strongest selling points because people brought it up over and over again. That’s the kind of information every business owner should be paying attention to. Before you rewrite your ads, rebuild your website or hire someone to "fix your marketing", read your reviews. Print them out. Tag the repeated phrases. Look for patterns. Group them by pain point, objection, trust factor, and reason they stayed. Then use the customer’s language in your marketing. Your best customers are often telling you exactly how to sell to more people like them. Have you ever gone through your reviews and pulled out the exact phrases customers keep repeating?
Angi
Hi there! I know some folks have seen me here, so I pose a question. Does anyone utilize Angi for leads? Is it worth it? Or is the percentage they ask for to much? I have heard a lot of good about the service, but also, I've heard a lot of bad as well. Truth be told, I cant help but turn it down because I want my clients to pay me. Not be looped in to a service that charges me, after charging the client to find my services. It makes no sense to me.. anyone else feel the same?
How are you building your local contractor lists?
I’ve been looking into how home service companies and marketing teams find new opportunities. A lot of people are using Google Maps to research local markets, but the challenge is usually: Finding the right businesses in a specific area Keeping contact information organized Identifying companies with growth opportunities For example: “HVAC companies in Texas” You can quickly build a list with: Business name Website Phone number Email Address Reviews & ratings Business category This can be useful for: Local SEO research Market analysis Competitor research Sales outreach I’m testing different ways to collect and structure local business data and would love to hear how others in the home service space are doing this. Curious: How do you currently find and research local contractors in your market?Is your follow-up helping you close, or annoying your leads?
This is one I had to learn the hard way. Speed-to-lead matters. If someone fills out a form, asks for a quote, or reaches out with interest, the business that responds fast usually has the advantage. A fast response can be the difference between closing the job and losing the customer to the next company they call. Quote reminders matter too. People get busy. They forget. They compare options. They need a little nudge. A good follow-up system can recover a lot of sales that would have gone cold. But there’s a point where follow-up stops feeling helpful and starts feeling pushy. That line matters. I learned this lesson from my only 1-star Google review. It wasn’t because of the service or because we did a bad job scooping. It came from a lead who didn’t want to receive any more messages, and because of technology issues with our automations, messages kept going out after they should have stopped. That one stung because it was preventable. It also taught me that automation can make you look organized when it works, and careless when it doesn’t. A follow-up system should never make someone feel trapped in your sales process. If a lead says they’re not interested, asks you to stop, or opts out, that needs to be respected immediately. No excuses. No “just one more reminder.” No system glitch that keeps poking them after they already said no. For us, that means paying closer attention to: how many quote reminders go out how close together they are what the wording sounds like whether the lead has a clean way to opt out whether the automation actually stops when it should whether a real person needs to step in before another message goes out The goal of follow-up is to reduce friction, not create resentment. A good reminder should feel like: “Hey, just checking in in case life got busy.” A bad reminder feels like: “Why won’t you answer me?” That difference affects your brand. Especially in local home services, where trust matters. People may not remember every detail of your quote, but they will remember if you made them feel pressured, ignored, or annoyed before they even became a customer. I still use automation. I still believe in follow-up. I still think most businesses lose money because they don’t follow up enough. But now I also think your follow-up system needs brakes. It needs opt-outs. It needs timing rules. It needs limits. It needs someone checking that the customer experience still feels human. Because closing more jobs doesn’t matter if the process damages your reputation with the people who don’t buy. How many times do you follow up on a quote before you stop? And do you have a clear opt-out process for people who don’t want more messages?
Marketing Question: What’s One Purchase That Changed Your Business?
Hello jobber community, Every business has that one investment that made operations easier. For those in moving, cleaning, landscaping, HVAC, plumbing, or other home services: What piece of equipment, software, or tool has had the biggest impact on your business? Was it worth the investment? As MoveTime 4U continues to grow, I’m always looking for ways to improve efficiency and customer experience.What Marketing Actually Works for Outdoor Service Businesses During Slow Seasons?
I run a small land clearing/brush clearing business in Ohio, and with how wet it’s been in our area lately, things are starting to slow down a bit. I’m trying to be proactive and focus on marketing so I can keep work coming in and continue growing the business. For those of you who’ve been in a similar spot, what marketing has actually worked best for you to bring in more customers and keep jobs lined up? Facebook ads, Google ads, yard signs, referrals, local networking, something else? I’d especially love to hear what’s worked well for seasonal or outdoor service businesses when weather starts affecting the schedule. Appreciate any advice or ideas you’re willing to share.Dial In Your SEO without an Agency
Hey team! i wanted to share a really good episode of the Waste No Day podcast. I just listened to it today and it had some really good tips on what things are important, things you can do, etc to organically strengthen your google business profile. One thing I learned that's it's ok to have an agency but you want to approach them after you already have the basics covered. If you try to completely hand off your marketing, you are asking for disappointment. When you take responsibility for this part of your business, you will understand how to measure success with an agency, and the value they provide will be like putting gas on the fire instead of trying to start the fire. Check this episode out, it's definitely worth the hour. Waste No Day Podcast - Lorne SederoffWhy Is It So Hard to Get Your Business Verified on Google Business Profile?
So....I have been trying to get "validated" by Google for about 2.5 years now and I dont understand why I need to and why it isn't easier. I own a Junk Removal company and Google is sending me through the ringer! PLEASE TELL ME IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS? Does anyone have insight on what to do? Thanks in advance, Hannah, DriveBy Junk Removal, Ltd.When did you hire your first sales person?
I think a lot of us owners, if we aren't in the field, we are doing the sales and marketing. For you larger businesses, when did you get your first sales person? What support positions did you hire first? Would you do it any different? I've never worked a sales job (other than owning my company) so I don't know what compensation structure would need to be in place to get a good sales person. How much meat needs to be on the bone for this hypothetical sales guy? This is what the ol AI told me - My honest estimate: a home service business usually needs to be around $1.2M–$1.5M/year in revenue before a true salesperson makes sense, assuming the company already has consistent lead flow, clean estimating, production capacity, and gross margins around 50%+. Below that, you can maybe afford a salesperson on paper, but you probably cannot give them enough opportunity to make the role attractive without crushing cash flow or starving them of leads. A good salesperson is likely going to need a believable path to $75k–$110k+ total comp, which means they need enough leads and deal volume to sell roughly $600k–$1M+ per year, depending on average ticket and margin.
